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got this from a friend, and thought i would pass it along. paul David M. Bresnahan April 1, 2006 NewsWithViews.com Dear President Bush: I’m about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I’m going to walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this. I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I’m sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I’m on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following: 1. Free medical care for my entire family. 2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not. 3. All government forms need to be printed in English. 4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers. 5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history. 6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down. 7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch. 8. I will need a local Mexican driver’s license so I can get easy access to government services. 9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won’t make any effort to learn local traffic laws. 10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English 11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals. 12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don’t enforce any labor laws or tax laws. 13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy. I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won’t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P. Thank you so much for your kind help. Sincerely, David M. Bresnahan
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> got this from a friend, and thought i would pass it along. > paul > David M. Bresnahan > April 1, 2006 > NewsWithViews.com > Dear President Bush: > I’m about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I > would like to ask you to assist me. I’m going to walk across the border > from the U.S. into Mexico, > and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this. > I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration > quotas and laws. I’m sure they handle those things the same way you do > here. > So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I’m on > my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following: > 1. Free medical care for my entire family. > 2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, > whether I use them or not. > 3. All government forms need to be printed in English. > 4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers. > 5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history. > 6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag > pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down. > 7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch. > 8. I will need a local Mexican driver’s license so I can get easy access > to government services. > 9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won’t make any effort to > learn local traffic laws. > 10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from > Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak > English > 11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my > car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any > complaints or negative comments from the locals. > 12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and > don’t enforce any labor laws or tax laws. > 13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and > never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on > the economy. > I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for > all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox > won’t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. > However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting > with your V.P. > Thank you so much for your kind help. > Sincerely, > David M. Bresnahan
OR Maybe Have Bush read this! Think on it for a while then let’s talk!!! Please take the time to read this; It ought to scare you! IT DID ME! We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia," explaining how immigration – both legal and illegal – was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.’" Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.". Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds. Third, "We could make the United States an ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities." "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high. school." "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology.’ I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population." "My sixth plan for America’s downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other – that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the ‘pluribus’. instead of the ‘Unum,’ we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo." "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century – that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobe’ halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of ‘Victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them." In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis’s book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book.". There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate ‘diversity.’ American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in. America – take note of California and other states – to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell’s book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength.". Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. 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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Please take the time to read this; It ought to scare you! IT DID ME! > We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his > thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration > overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of > American’s finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the > name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, Mexifornia," > explaining how immigration – both legal and illegal – was destroying the > entire state of California. He said it would march across the country > until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. > Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave > a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound > as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He > said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too > rich, then let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in > history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all > great civilizations rise and fall and that ‘An autopsy of history would > show that all great nations commit suicide.’" > Here is how they do it," Lamm said: > "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or > multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can > survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing > languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be > bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The > historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of > bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories > of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon > all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for > autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria > suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, > Bretons, and Corsicans.".
Nonsense. Switzerland is bilingual. China is multilingual. The new South Africa has 11 official languages. And Canada and Belgium are not facing crises of national existence by any stretch. This is hysteria, not a rational assessment. > Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent ‘multiculturalism’ and > encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article > of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural > differences.
And this is incoherent. This writer must decide if his bogeyman is the A) maintencence of multiple cultures or B) the argument that there are no cultural differences. For what it’s worth, I don’t think many people believe B. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic > dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the > majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.
No serious scholar of school dropout rates would put it so simply. However, the dropout rates are clearly due to environmental conditions, cultural context etc., and prejudice and discrimination have a WHOLE lot to do with those things. I’m assuming, perhaps erroneously, that the author doesn’t ascribe dropout rates to something inherent or genetic in blacks or hispanics. > Third, "We could make the United States an ‘Hispanic Quebec’ without much > effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin > Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of > our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved > not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated > ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only > tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would > encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would > replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is > important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in > America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing > their similarities."
We certainly do need to emphasize the qualities that bring us together as much as the rich variety of cultures and beliefs among us. The question is, what should we put forth as our commonalities? It’s no good to insist that we share a religious practice, or a sport, or a particular work of art. Better to emphasize our shared committment to educate and love our children, our shared commmittment to the opportunity to better ourselves, our shared committment to civil liberties. And while I’ll re-state that I don’t believe multiple languages are necessarily a threat, I do believe that we must teach our citizens the language in which our country’s founding documents were written. > "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least > educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, > and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass > have a 50% dropout rate from high. school."
No argument there. A quality education must be guaranteed to everyone in our community. > "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations > and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic > identity, and I would establish the cult of ‘Victimology.’
Victimology. Like the guys who are always complaining about reverse discrimination? Like the people who actually believe there’s a war on Christmas? I would get all > minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the > majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure > on the majority population."
It seems that a more successful route would be to encourage a majority to believe that their failures were due to threats from minorities – immigrants, jewish bankers, negroes who want their women. It worked in Nazi Germany. It worked in the former Yugoslavia. Yep – convincing the majority that THEY are victims seems a surefire way to divide and destroy a country. > "My sixth plan
looks a whole lot like the third plan, so I’ll skip it. > "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to > talk about anything against the cult of ‘diversity.’ I would find a word > similar to ‘heretic’ in the 16th century – that stopped discussion and > paralyzed thinking. Words like ‘racist’ or ‘xenophobe’ halt discussion and > debate.
"Terrorist" and "traitor" are also good examples. If you want open debate, you must be prepared to deal with words like "racist" or "xenophobe" – it’s not like you can outlaw them. Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having > established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the > doctrine of ‘Victimology,’ I would next make it impossible to enforce our > immigration laws.
Check! It is, surely, very difficult to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for > America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant > symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."
I’m glad that our government is not ignoring the cumulative impact of millions of immigrants. It dominated congress and the press for the past week, and the story ain’t over yet. > In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound > silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson > Davis’s book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to > destroy America. If you feel America. deserves to be destroyed, don’t read > that book.".
"If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don’t read that book." ????? More hysterics. Give me a break. Of course immigration is an important issue, but divisive, and -yes- xenophobic commentary like this don’t help. I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than this fear-mongering.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > got this from a friend, and thought i would pass it along. > paul > David M. Bresnahan > April 1, 2006 > NewsWithViews.com > Dear President Bush: > I’m about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family, and I > would like to ask you to assist me. I’m going to walk across the border from > the U.S. into Mexico, > and I need to make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this. > I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas > and laws. I’m sure they handle those things the same way you do here. > So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I’m on my > way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following: > 1. Free medical care for my entire family. > 2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, > whether I use them or not. > 3. All government forms need to be printed in English. > 4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers. > 5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history. > 6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag > pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down. > 7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch. > 8. I will need a local Mexican driver’s license so I can get easy access to > government services. > 9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won’t make any effort to > learn local traffic laws. > 10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from > Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak > English > 11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my > car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any > complaints or negative comments from the locals. > 12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don’t > enforce any labor laws or tax laws. > 13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never > say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the > economy. > I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for > all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox > won’t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. > However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting > with your V.P. > Thank you so much for your kind help. > Sincerely, > David M. Bresnahan
Is Dave going to be a dishwasher in a sleazy restaurant or does he aspire to mow lawns as a 50 year old? Oh I know, he’s going to die working for a car wash while his wife cleans houses. mvm
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> I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if we > didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly workable > plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than this > fear-mongering.
Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to me’, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko fringe right wing. Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted to hear it….then. As well, Al Franken NAILED FoxNews with his _Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them. Ah, *what* a difference a little time can make. It’s why I’m still detonating nutjobs in AGA and that jerkoff tech in Denver and that trust fund pantload amp maker in Brea, CA aren’t here anymore. Stalky, Claudel and Devin are still fun to slap down though. 
mvm
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> I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover >if we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful >than this fear-mongering. Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to me’, rang true, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko fringe right wing. Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted to hear it….then. As well, Al Franken NAILED FoxNews with his _Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them_. Ah, *what* a difference a little time can make. It’s why I’m still detonating nutjobs in AGA and that jerkoff tech in Denver and that trust fund pantload amp maker in Brea, CA aren’t here anymore. Stalky, Claudel and Devin are still fun to slap down though. mvm
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>> I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if > we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly > workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than > this fear-mongering. > Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to > me’, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko > fringe right wing. > Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film > exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted
i would try to address the points that you made in your post, but after saying this, NOTHING you say has ANY importance or relevance to ANY political discussion. Michael More (or less) is the poorly drawn comic book of the political world. if you believe in michael more (or less) then I don’t believe in you! paul az
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if > we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly > workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than > this fear-mongering. > Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to > me’, rang true, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon > whacko fringe right wing. > Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film > exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted > to hear it….then. As well, Al Franken NAILED FoxNews with his > _Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them_. > Ah, *what* a difference a little time can make. It’s why I’m still > detonating nutjobs in AGA and that jerkoff tech in Denver and that > trust fund pantload amp maker in Brea, CA aren’t here anymore. > Stalky, Claudel and Devin are still fun to slap down though. mvm
careful, driplog, it appears that you’re stuttering.;- ) paul – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Leave ol Lemony Snicket alone. Your man in the White House leaked to destroy people and promote the neocons evil intentions for their own profit. When are you gonna catch on???? That film is gonna make Mike’s look like Disney. What is it going to take to make you wake up. There’s a fire blazing. It’s time to go fetch the fire hose.
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Oh so that’s why Europeans speak at least three languages…..in order to destroy their way of life. Ummm and THAT"s why Europeans and Asians are so behind our students in math there’s too much diversity over there, hell there’s hundreds of dialects in China ….when they finally force everyone to speak one language – they’ll kick our buts!!!!! They be so ADVANCED!!!! (Oh they tried that before…..they had a cultural revolution that tried to make everyone the same – Hey that worked out well didn’t it? Maybe they’ll try that here too????)
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> Leave ol Lemony Snicket alone. Your man in the White House leaked to > destroy people and promote the neocons evil intentions for their own > profit. When are you gonna catch on????
come on now, Bush ain’t no Reagan, but he’s a FAR cry from being some kind of LBJ.
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> > Leave ol Lemony Snicket alone. Your man in the White House leaked to > destroy people and promote the neocons evil intentions for their own > profit. When are you gonna catch on???? > come on now, Bush ain’t no Reagan, but he’s a FAR cry from being some kind > of LBJ.
yup – hes’ way worse. At least LBJ’s wife made the highways purty. Gave Austin the hike and bike trails. Funny you should mention LBJ – I visited his library last week with my Dad. Boy…..some memories should never re awaken. On the way out he stopped in the gift shop to buy some wildflower seeds. Imagine what the cashier thought when he blurted out, "I’m German. I remember when the allieds came to town. There were thousands of pictures of Hitler thrown in the river. Thousands of picture of Hitler just flowing down the river. I imagine that some of the soldiers picked them up for souveniers." LBJ was a veritable fountain of off color jokes whichif he were to tell today would get him PCd outta town by the right wing crowd. really you guys are the champions at being PC, more than the left could hope to be. He made a bargain with the devil. I’ll give you 60,000 young men in exchange for civil rights and prosperity. It just depends on whether the devil got you if that was a good deal or not. So Bush has made his deal with the devil, I’ll give you this whole country if I and my buddies can become jillionaires tax free. Well there’s bad and then there’s badder. Bush is badder.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if >>we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than >>this fear-mongering. >Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to >me’, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko >fringe right wing. >Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted > i would try to address the points that you made in your post, but after > saying this, NOTHING you say has ANY importance or relevance to ANY > political discussion. Michael More (or less) is the poorly drawn comic book > of the political world. > if you believe in michael more (or less) then I don’t believe in you! > paul > az
Michael Moore has more sense in one of his sack hairs than your entire genetic code.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if >>we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than >>this fear-mongering. >Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to >me’, rang true, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon >whacko fringe right wing. >Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted >to hear it….then. As well, Al Franken NAILED FoxNews with his >_Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them_. >Ah, *what* a difference a little time can make. It’s why I’m still >detonating nutjobs in AGA and that jerkoff tech in Denver and that >trust fund pantload amp maker in Brea, CA aren’t here anymore. >Stalky, Claudel and Devin are still fun to slap down though. mvm > careful, driplog, it appears that you’re stuttering.;- ) > paul
P-p-p-paul, I should have added your name! <BLAM!>. Go bleed it off, -b-b-b-bitch 
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if >>>we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than >>>this fear-mongering. >>Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to >>me’, rang true, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon >>whacko fringe right wing. >>Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >>exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted >>to hear it….then. As well, Al Franken NAILED FoxNews with his >>_Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them_. >>Ah, *what* a difference a little time can make. It’s why I’m still >>detonating nutjobs in AGA and that jerkoff tech in Denver and that >>trust fund pantload amp maker in Brea, CA aren’t here anymore. >>Stalky, Claudel and Devin are still fun to slap down though. mvm > careful, driplog, it appears that you’re stuttering.;- ) > paul >P-p-p-paul, I should have added your name! <BLAM!>. Go bleed it off, >-b-b-b-bitch
Marc, you *are* a great comedic artist after all. Writing people’s screen names on *little* Marc before that hot date with Mr. Left Hand and calling it a "slap down". Now *that’s* humor. A bit sad and pathetic, but still funny. Keep up the good work. Your pal. Claude
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if >>>>we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>>>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than >>>>this fear-mongering. >>>Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to >>>me’, rang true, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon >>>whacko fringe right wing. >>>Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >>>exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted >>>to hear it….then. As well, Al Franken NAILED FoxNews with his >>>_Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them_. >>>Ah, *what* a difference a little time can make. It’s why I’m still >>>detonating nutjobs in AGA and that jerkoff tech in Denver and that >>>trust fund pantload amp maker in Brea, CA aren’t here anymore. >>>Stalky, Claudel and Devin are still fun to slap down though. mvm >>careful, driplog, it appears that you’re stuttering.;- ) >>paul >P-p-p-paul, I should have added your name! <BLAM!>. Go bleed it off, >-b-b-b-bitch > Marc, you *are* a great comedic artist after all. > Writing people’s screen names on *little* Marc before > that hot date with Mr. Left Hand and calling it a "slap down". > Now *that’s* humor. > A bit sad and pathetic, but still funny. > Keep up the good work. > Your pal. > Claude
Claudel, Your only pals probably died of AIDS and I’m sorry for you about that, honestly. At your advanced age however, striking out like a child who’s acting out because he doesn’t understand his own emotions is well, -S,P, and deserved of the moniker ‘A’ at your age. Wise up, — ‘ol toad. Your idol, Marc
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>Nonsense. Switzerland is bilingual.
Mostly German with some French. Come on, is thatphilsophically the same or are you just counting numbers? >China is multilingual.
Are you holding up China as the model for the world to emulate with its many countries-within-a-country, languages, and cultures? >The new South Africa has 11 official languages.
Again, your idea of a successful culture and nation? >And Canada and Belgium are not facing >crises of national existence by any stretch.
What would you think of California voting to secede and become a new nation like Quebec has tried to do? Does that constitute a crisis of national existence? >This is hysteria, not a >rational assessment.
I agree that today it is hysteria, but hopefully someday soon it’ll congeal into a national state of mind.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if >>>we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than >>>this fear-mongering. >>Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to >>me’, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko >>fringe right wing. >>Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >>exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted > i would try to address the points that you made in your post, but after > saying this, NOTHING you say has ANY importance or relevance to ANY > political discussion. Michael More (or less) is the poorly drawn comic > book of the political world. > if you believe in michael more (or less) then I don’t believe in you! > paul > az > Michael Moore has more sense in one of his sack hairs than your entire > genetic code.
it is this kind of thinking that explains why you don’t count.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Nonsense. Switzerland is bilingual. > Mostly German with some French. Come on, is thatphilsophically the same > or are you just counting numbers? >China is multilingual. > Are you holding up China as the model for the world to emulate with its > many countries-within-a-country, languages, and cultures? >The new South Africa has 11 official languages. > Again, your idea of a successful culture and nation? >And Canada and Belgium are not facing >crises of national existence by any stretch. > What would you think of California voting to secede and become a new > nation like Quebec has tried to do? Does that constitute a crisis of > national existence?
Hi, QC does not want to separate. It’s their political tool to get more from central government. Quebec people are not stupid. But good politically minded. Tony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->This is hysteria, not a >rational assessment. > I agree that today it is hysteria, but hopefully someday soon it’ll > congeal into a national state of mind.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Nonsense. Switzerland is bilingual. > Mostly German with some French. Come on, is thatphilsophically the same > or are you just counting numbers? >> China is multilingual. > Are you holding up China as the model for the world to emulate with its > many countries-within-a-country, languages, and cultures? >> The new South Africa has 11 official languages. > Again, your idea of a successful culture and nation? >> And Canada and Belgium are not facing >> crises of national existence by any stretch. > What would you think of California voting to secede and become a new > nation like Quebec has tried to do? Does that constitute a crisis of > national existence? > Hi, > QC does not want to separate. It’s their political tool to get more from > central government. Quebec people are not stupid. But good politically > minded. > Tony
I’ll remember that *explination* the next time you post about Americans…. … ‘we’re just politically minded..’ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> This is hysteria, not a >> rational assessment. > I agree that today it is hysteria, but hopefully someday soon it’ll > congeal into a national state of mind.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover if >>>>we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>>>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful than >>>>this fear-mongering. >>>Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot to >>>me’, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko >>>fringe right wing. >>>Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >>>exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted >>i would try to address the points that you made in your post, but after >>saying this, NOTHING you say has ANY importance or relevance to ANY >>political discussion. Michael More (or less) is the poorly drawn comic >>book of the political world. >>if you believe in michael more (or less) then I don’t believe in you! >>paul >>az >Michael Moore has more sense in one of his sack hairs than your entire >genetic code. > it is this kind of thinking that explains why you don’t count.
Past a billion of your idiotic posts?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover >>>>>if we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>>>>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful >>>>>than this fear-mongering. >>>>Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot >>>>to me’, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko >>>>fringe right wing. >>>>Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >>>>exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted >>>i would try to address the points that you made in your post, but after >>>saying this, NOTHING you say has ANY importance or relevance to ANY >>>political discussion. Michael More (or less) is the poorly drawn comic >>>book of the political world. >>>if you believe in michael more (or less) then I don’t believe in you! >>>paul >>>az >>Michael Moore has more sense in one of his sack hairs than your entire >>genetic code. > it is this kind of thinking that explains why you don’t count. > Past a billion of your idiotic posts?
…and you can’t count. maybe part of the reason you DON’T count. compared to you, i am a pretty light poster! paul az
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>Nonsense. Switzerland is bilingual. > Mostly German with some French. Come on, is thatphilsophically the same > or are you just counting numbers?
I don’t know if the number of French speakers in Switzerland is any larger, proportionally than the number of Spanish (or Arabic or Mandarin or French) speakers in the US. The point is, they don’t cause a threat to the country. >China is multilingual. > Are you holding up China as the model for the world to emulate with its > many countries-within-a-country, languages, and cultures?
Again, I’m pointing out that the multiple languages do not, on the face of it, equal a threat to the country. >The new South Africa has 11 official languages. > Again, your idea of a successful culture and nation?
Hard to say at this point. You have to admit that they made a REMARKABLE transition to majority rule without outright warfare. The have an admirable, progressive constitution. And they have a lot of lingering problems, the roots of which are lingering apartheid and poverty – not multiple languages. >And Canada and Belgium are not facing >crises of national existence by any stretch. > What would you think of California voting to secede and become a new > nation like Quebec has tried to do? Does that constitute a crisis of > national existence?
It doesn’t look like Canada’s going anywhere. >This is hysteria, not a >rational assessment. > I agree that today it is hysteria, but hopefully someday soon it’ll > congeal into a national state of mind.
We don’t need fear and xenophobia as a national state of mind. We need a rational, enforceable, economical and just policy on immigration.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>>>>>I’m not an economist, and I don’t know how our economy would recover >>>>>>if we didn’t have so many immigrant workers. I’d like to see a truly >>>>>>workable plan for immigration. It would be a whole lot more useful >>>>>>than this fear-mongering. >>>>>Just as the aging 70’s SNL humerous expression ‘bazbol bin betty goot >>>>>to me’, ‘Fear-mongering’ has been betty goot to America’s neocon whacko >>>>>fringe right wing. >>>>>Michael Moore did a great job of pointing that out in his 2004 film >>>>>exposing Bush, Wolfowitz, etc for what they are -but nobody wanted >>>>i would try to address the points that you made in your post, but after >>>>saying this, NOTHING you say has ANY importance or relevance to ANY >>>>political discussion. Michael More (or less) is the poorly drawn comic >>>>book of the political world. >>>>if you believe in michael more (or less) then I don’t believe in you! >>>>paul >>>>az >>>Michael Moore has more sense in one of his sack hairs than your entire >>>genetic code. >>it is this kind of thinking that explains why you don’t count. >Past a billion of your idiotic posts? > …and you can’t count. maybe part of the reason you DON’T count. compared > to you, i am a pretty light poster! > paul > az
Contrasted to me, you *are* a _lite_weight intellect. Physically however, I’ll bet you’re a beer-gutted waddler.
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All of Europe and the far east are multilingual. If one spoke English, Spanish and Chinese, one could be understood anywhere. America is one of only a few places I’ve been where being undereducated is a point of pride. FWIW "Ich spreche Deutsch aber nicht gut."
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>Nonsense. Switzerland is bilingual. > Mostly German with some French. Come on, is thatphilsophically the same > or are you just counting numbers? >>China is multilingual. > Are you holding up China as the model for the world to emulate with its > many countries-within-a-country, languages, and cultures? >>The new South Africa has 11 official languages. > Again, your idea of a successful culture and nation? >>And Canada and Belgium are not facing >>crises of national existence by any stretch. > What would you think of California voting to secede and become a new > nation like Quebec has tried to do? Does that constitute a crisis of > national existence? > Hi, > QC does not want to separate. It’s their political tool to get more from > central government. Quebec people are not stupid. But good politically > minded. > Tony >>This is hysteria, not a >>rational assessment. > I agree that today it is hysteria, but hopefully someday soon it’ll > congeal into a national state of mind.