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Captive Saddam misses Ronald Reagan, magazine says NEW YORK (Reuters) – Saddam Hussein likes Doritos, washes his hands compulsively and thinks fondly of the late U.S. President Ronald Reagan, according to American soldiers who guarded him and tell their story in the July issue of GQ magazine. The jailed former Iraqi leader described how Reagan, who was president during the time of Iraq’s 1980-88 war with Iran, sold him planes and helicopters. "Reagan and me, good,"’ Saddam said, according to the article by Lisa DePaulo in the July issue that goes on sale June 28. "He said, ‘I wish things were like when Ronald Reagan was still president,"’ said one of the soldiers who guarded him.

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> Captive Saddam misses Ronald Reagan, magazine says > NEW YORK (Reuters) – Saddam Hussein likes Doritos, washes his hands > compulsively and thinks fondly of the late U.S. President Ronald Reagan, > according to American soldiers who guarded him and tell their story in > the July issue of GQ magazine. > The jailed former Iraqi leader described how Reagan, who was president > during the time of Iraq’s 1980-88 war with Iran, sold him planes and > helicopters. "Reagan and me, good,"’ Saddam said, according to the > article by Lisa DePaulo in the July issue that goes on sale June 28. > "He said, ‘I wish things were like when Ronald Reagan was still > president,"’ said one of the soldiers who guarded him.

That was the time when hatred of Iran was at an all time high and our weapons policy toward Iraq was if he can defeat Iran give him what ever he wants. Then the elder Bush screwed him on a back door oil deal and threats were issued. And the rest as they say is history…..

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> That was the time when hatred of Iran was at an all time high and our > weapons policy toward Iraq was if he can defeat Iran give him what ever he > wants.

  Letme recall that little piece of history.   1. Iraq was at war with Iran over a little piece of a river bed,      nothing that WW1 era mustard gas couldn’t cure. 2. RR and his crew gave/sold missles to Iraq to fight      mean and evil Iran after they held 90 Americans      becasue the USA dicked around with some obscure Shaw.   3. Later, Iraq fired those missles at Kuwait Oil tankers. 4. US Navy came over to protect our tankers from      misguided missles that RR sold Iraq, eventually      shooting down an Iran passager airliner.   Fast forward 20 years, and Iraq is still shooting   at US military likely with shoulder launched   missiles and bullets left over from 1983.   I can see why he like Reagan then.

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Fast forward yet another 5-10 years and the US/UK will be engaged in an 18 month long WWIII w/ China & Russia as allies. The mid-east will be oil-fueling the Chinese war effort. Al Queda will be greasing all supply skids just as La Cosa Nostra did for the U.S. in Sicily, during the 1940’s. It’s a shame it takes BIG war to effect major, significant technological change. Since oil is critical to aviation and shipping war efforts, there will be none available to Joe 6 Pack the motorist or home heater. Watch how quick America turns on a dime toward hydrogen fuel. After the war and <10 mushroom clouds on this end, the Green revolution can resume in earnest. Except in old contaminated Manhatten, D.C., N. Jersey, Ohio/Indiana or S.TX/S.LA industrial "Ground Zero" areas. Finally, vast swaths of heretofore desolate U.S. nature hinterlands will be used to rebuild entire cities and hydrogen complexes. THAT will revive the U.S. economy…the Marshall Project on the contiguous 48. Us geezers will regale little ones ad nauseum with; "There was once a great city there…" and "Great Grandma and I remember formations   and deserts for as farrrrrrrrrr as the eye could see…-but that was before the WAR you see-" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> That was the time when hatred of Iran was at an all time high and our > weapons policy toward Iraq was if he can defeat Iran give him what > ever he wants. >  Letme recall that little piece of history. >  1. Iraq was at war with Iran over a little piece of a river bed, >     nothing that WW1 era mustard gas couldn’t cure. > 2. RR and his crew gave/sold missles to Iraq to fight >     mean and evil Iran after they held 90 Americans >     becasue the USA dicked around with some obscure Shaw. >  3. Later, Iraq fired those missles at Kuwait Oil tankers. > 4. US Navy came over to protect our tankers from >     misguided missles that RR sold Iraq, eventually >     shooting down an Iran passager airliner. >  Fast forward 20 years, and Iraq is still shooting >  at US military likely with shoulder launched >  missiles and bullets left over from 1983. >  I can see why he like Reagan then.

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>  I can see why he like Reagan then.

Some good points there! Somethings that seem like a great idea at one place in time can sometimes haunt you later. See ya, John

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> M.Butzin lied: > That was the time when hatred of Iran was at an all time high and our > weapons policy toward Iraq was if he can defeat Iran give him what ever > he wants. >

Tota;l horeshit, Saddam/Iraq was a Soviet client state and was armed with Russian, Chinese and also, French weaponry. >  1. Iraq was at war with Iran over a little piece of a river bed, nothing > that WW1 era mustard gas couldn’t cure.>

Provided by your commie friends, the Russkies. > 2. RR and his crew gave/sold missles to Iraq to fight  mean and evil Iran > after they held 90 Americans  becasue the USA dicked around with some > obscure Shaw.>

Well, forst, it was the Shah, who was trying to modernize and educate Iran. If you want to compre the statius of Iran before & after the fall of the Shah, go ahead, it’s very enlightenming to learn what a bunch of ignorant, Islamist racist/sexist religious thugs can do to a country in 25 years. >  3. Later, Iraq fired those missles at Kuwait Oil tankers.>

OOOPS! Another lie, Butzins nose is GROWING!!! Turns out the Iraqis fired FRENCH EXOCET missles, from FRENCH Super Etendard fighters at the tankers, AND, almost sank the USS Stark in the process, killng many US sailors. > 4. US Navy came over to protect our tankers from misguided missles that RR > sold Iraq, eventually shooting down an Iran passager airliner.>

While they were being attacked by Iranian radicals in gunboats. The dumb-ass Iranians flew an airliner right into a combat zone & got what they had coming, sorry. >  Fast forward 20 years, and Iraq is still shooting at US military likely > with shoulder launched  missiles and bullets left over from 1983.>

All provided by your commie buddies, the Soviets. Feel better now, dickhead?

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> Provided by your commie friends, the Russkies.

Not my friends >  racist/sexist religious thugs can do to a country in 25 years.

Stay tuned . we have another 15 years to go. > OOOPS! Another lie, Butzins nose is GROWING!!! Turns out the Iraqis fired > FRENCH EXOCET missles, from FRENCH Super Etendard fighters at the tankers,

  Oops, not a lie. My mistake. Still with so  much crap stockplied  there   who really knows who shot which model at what ship ? > While they were being attacked by Iranian radicals in gunboats. The dumb-ass > Iranians flew an airliner right into a combat zone & got what they had > coming, sorry.

  Somewhat agree. > Fast forward 20 years, and Iraq is still shooting at US military likely >with shoulder launched  missiles and bullets left over from 1983.> > All provided by your commie buddies, the Soviets. Feel better now, dickhead?

  Again, not my friends. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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> Fast forward yet another 5-10 years and the US/UK will be engaged in an > 18 month long WWIII w/ China & Russia as allies.

  Is Russia still a threat ? I don’t figure them and the Chinese getting along. They would be part of the vast swallow. Chinese WWIII would be horrible. Other than a nuke, they would be unstoppable swarming over the middle east. > The mid-east will be oil-fueling the Chinese war effort. Al Queda will > be greasing all supply skids just as La Cosa Nostra did for the U.S. in > Sicily, during the 1940’s.

  I don’t know how trustworthly the Chinese are to anyone.   More than likely it would be take no hostages.  > After the war and <10 mushroom clouds on > this end, the Green revolution can resume in earnest.

  More like Mad Max in  the movie where they live in oil complex. > Except in old contaminated Manhatten, D.C., N. Jersey, Ohio/Indiana or > S.TX/S.LA industrial "Ground Zero" areas. > hinterlands will be used to rebuild entire cities and hydrogen complexes.

  My 10000 acre Nevada desert ranch will be beach front.

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>> Fast forward yet another 5-10 years and the US/UK will be engaged in an 18 month long WWIII w/ China & Russia as allies. >  Is Russia still a threat ? I don’t figure them and the Chinese getting along.

Yes, they own and control stockpile of MIRV’d ICBM’s that didn’t simply melt the day the USSR dissolved. The Russians have been selling the Chinese advanced war technology for many years- Most notably, air-to-air combat radar systems and supersonic magnesium burning torpedo technology for nuclear aircraft carrier lethalty. The Chinese and the russians cooperate better than the Americans and the French. > They would be part of the vast swallow. > Chinese WWIII would be horrible. Other than a nuke, they would be unstoppable swarming over the middle east.

Nuclear weapons will be used by both sides against each other– hence a duration of less than two years. Once they’re used, the battles will quickly cease. They won’t be used for the 1 to 1.5 years > The mid-east will be oil-fueling the Chinese war effort. Al Queda will be greasing all supply skids just as La Cosa Nostra did for the U.S. in > Sicily, during the 1940’s. >  I don’t know how trustworthly the Chinese are to anyone. More than likely it would be take no hostages.

Politics have made "strange bedfellows" since man walked upright….The U.S. / U.S.S.R. "allies" vs. Germany and Japan 1940’s? >  > After the war and <10 mushroom clouds on this end, the Green revolution can resume in earnest. >  More like Mad Max in  the movie where they live in oil complex.

That’s the complacency our and past generations have retreated to; Movie Land. Hollywood THIS;  a nation of One Billion Five Hundred Million mobilizing for war with the help of Russia & Arab Mid Eastern oil nations against the USA, UK and Australia while 90% of Europe ducks and covers, nowhere to be found. > Except in old contaminated Manhatten, D.C., N. Jersey, Ohio/Indiana or S.TX/S.LA industrial "Ground Zero" areas. hinterlands will be used to > rebuild entire cities and hydrogen complexes. >  My 10000 acre Nevada desert ranch will be beach front.

No it won’t, but after the war, your land values will skyrocket as the US Govt. enables privatization of the majority of Nevada it now owns as well as great swaths of other real estate now in Govt. hands across SW States. The "New Frontier" will be…the old one. America will become isolationist Green (The "New" hydrogen and nuclear power economy), licking wounds and rebuilding. China will have been reduced to bouncing radioactive rubble. Russia will take a few hits as the U.S. did, but niether will be anything like China in the vast wasteland dept. btw- Pyongyang N. Korea, Tokyo and many other Japanese cities will be vaporized. So will San Diego, Los Angeles, San Jose through "Silicon Valley" and Seattle. San Francisco itself —and its huge Asian population— will be spared, remaining the sole West Coast jewel city of the old America.

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The good news- Once Washington D.C. disgorges itself of the last of the TheoGunCons (2008), none of this need come to pass. If however, the Anti-TheoGunCons get only a 4 year shot and the USA falls under TheoGunCon control once more, the Chinese will then be ready to take Taiwan in 2012. 2012-2016 all bets on US Security and military dominance of Earth are off. That torch will have finally passed and all that matters is how D.C. reacts to the most deadly force it has ever encountered. Reading about a trickle of dead Marines halfway around the planet will seem as trite as reading about trench warfare in France seems, today. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Fast forward yet another 5-10 years and the US/UK will be engaged in >> an 18 month long WWIII w/ China & Russia as allies. >  Is Russia still a threat ? I don’t figure them and the Chinese > getting along. > Yes, they own and control stockpile of MIRV’d ICBM’s that didn’t simply > melt the day the USSR dissolved. The Russians > have been selling the Chinese advanced war technology for many years- > Most notably, air-to-air combat radar systems > and supersonic magnesium burning torpedo technology for nuclear aircraft > carrier lethalty. > The Chinese and the russians cooperate better than the Americans and the > French. > They would be part of the vast swallow. > Chinese WWIII would be horrible. Other than a nuke, they would be > unstoppable swarming over the middle east. > Nuclear weapons will be used by both sides against each other– hence a > duration of less than two years. Once they’re used, the > battles will quickly cease. They won’t be used for the 1 to 1.5 years >> The mid-east will be oil-fueling the Chinese war effort. Al Queda >> will be greasing all supply skids just as La Cosa Nostra did for the >> U.S. in >> Sicily, during the 1940’s. >  I don’t know how trustworthly the Chinese are to anyone. More than > likely it would be take no hostages. > Politics have made "strange bedfellows" since man walked upright….The > U.S. / U.S.S.R. "allies" vs. Germany and Japan 1940’s? >  > After the war and <10 mushroom clouds on this end, the Green > revolution can resume in earnest. >  More like Mad Max in  the movie where they live in oil complex. > That’s the complacency our and past generations have retreated to; Movie > Land. Hollywood THIS;  a nation of One Billion Five Hundred Million > mobilizing > for war with the help of Russia & Arab Mid Eastern oil nations against > the USA, UK and Australia while 90% of Europe ducks and covers, nowhere > to be found. >> Except in old contaminated Manhatten, D.C., N. Jersey, Ohio/Indiana >> or S.TX/S.LA industrial "Ground Zero" areas. hinterlands will be used >> to rebuild entire cities and hydrogen complexes. >  My 10000 acre Nevada desert ranch will be beach front. > No it won’t, but after the war, your land values will skyrocket as the > US Govt. enables privatization of the majority of Nevada it now owns as > well as great > swaths of other real estate now in Govt. hands across SW States. > The "New Frontier" will be…the old one. > America will become isolationist Green (The "New" hydrogen and nuclear > power economy), licking wounds and rebuilding. > China will have been reduced to bouncing radioactive rubble. Russia will > take a few hits as the U.S. did, but niether will be anything like China > in the > vast wasteland dept. btw- Pyongyang N. Korea, Tokyo and many other > Japanese cities will be vaporized. So will San Diego, Los Angeles, San Jose > through "Silicon Valley" and Seattle. > San Francisco itself —and its huge Asian population— will be spared, > remaining the sole West Coast jewel city of the old America.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> M.Butzin lied: >> That was the time when hatred of Iran was at an all time high and our >> weapons policy toward Iraq was if he can defeat Iran give him what ever >> he wants. > > Tota;l horeshit, Saddam/Iraq was a Soviet client state and was armed with > Russian, Chinese and also, French weaponry. >  1. Iraq was at war with Iran over a little piece of a river bed, nothing > that WW1 era mustard gas couldn’t cure.> > Provided by your commie friends, the Russkies. > 2. RR and his crew gave/sold missles to Iraq to fight  mean and evil Iran > after they held 90 Americans  becasue the USA dicked around with some > obscure Shaw.> > Well, forst, it was the Shah, who was trying to modernize and educate > Iran. If you want to compre the statius of Iran before & after the fall of > the Shah, go ahead, it’s very enlightenming to learn what a bunch of > ignorant, Islamist racist/sexist religious thugs can do to a country in 25 > years. >  3. Later, Iraq fired those missles at Kuwait Oil tankers.> > OOOPS! Another lie, Butzins nose is GROWING!!! Turns out the Iraqis fired > FRENCH EXOCET missles, from FRENCH Super Etendard fighters at the tankers, > AND, almost sank the USS Stark in the process, killng many US sailors.

"Forst horeshit" Sok66, In English it’s "First and Horseshit" BUTZIN, didn’t make that statement you you ignorant ass. Perhaps you should get someone who can READ and COMPREHEND english before you reply. And the Reagan era policy was to give him what he wants, just like in Afghanistan and Osama fighting your homeboy Russians that’s where the stingers came from.  Go back and soak your head in your vodka bottle, Boris! > 4. US Navy came over to protect our tankers from misguided missles that > RR sold Iraq, eventually shooting down an Iran passager airliner.> > While they were being attacked by Iranian radicals in gunboats. The > dumb-ass Iranians flew an airliner right into a combat zone & got what > they had coming, sorry. >  Fast forward 20 years, and Iraq is still shooting at US military likely > with shoulder launched  missiles and bullets left over from 1983.> > All provided by your commie buddies, the Soviets. Feel better now, > dickhead?

The shoulder fired misslies came from Dubya daddy, sperm lips. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Tomorrow we have our first parade for the dead. I am letting my factory off for the afternoon to attend "services." Hispanic kid – outta respect for their families, not out of respect for war. Left a 20 year old widow behind. I am sick to here of what a hero – died with honor speeches.

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http://www.marxist.com/images/saddam_rumsfeld.jpg I thought you ought to know what real commies have to say on the subject of Saddam Marxists have no sympathy with the man who ruled Iraq with a mailed fist, who murdered Communists and trade unionists, who gassed Iranians and Kurds, who massacred Shias and killed political prisoners with excruciating torture. But the words of the British and American imperialists reek of hypocrisy. For years this same man was one of the West’s best friends in the Middle East. Successive British and American governments financed and armed him. The poison gas that he used against the Kurds was sold to him by American companies at a time when his crimes against the Kurdish people were well known. Among the long list of western leaders who visited Baghdad to fawn on Saddam there was one Donald Rumsfeld, sent to Baghdad by President Ronald Reagan, a great admirer of his. Robert Fisk recalled the excellent relations that had existed in the past between Saddam Hussein and the West: "This was the man who was the honour guest of the city of Paris when Mr Chirac was mayor and when the French could see the Jacobins in his bloody regime. This was the man who negotiated with the UN secretary generals Perez de Cuellar and Kofi Annan, who had chatted over coffee to none other than the now US Secretary of Defence, Donald Rumsfeld, who had met Ted Heath and Tony Benn and a host of European statesmen." There was no talk then of the evil crimes of this bloody dictator! The Americans are crowing now, but what was surprising was not the fact that they captured Saddam, but the fact that they took so long to accomplish this feat. Our memories are not so poor that we cannot remember the numerous occasions when the talking busts on CNN solemnly assured us that the US air force had killed Saddam with its tremendous technology and pin-point bombing. This turned out to be just lies and propaganda – just like all the rest of what the lie machines of Washington and London tell us about Iraq. In response to the guerrilla onslaught, the invaders have intensified their military activity, bombing and shelling indiscriminately. In the end it was not high technology but the very old fashioned method of bribery and corruption that was responsible for the arrest of Saddam. It took the American army with all its resources eight months to capture the man they were so desperately hunting. It seems overwhelmingly probable that this was the result of the large sums of money that Washington has been offering to anyone who was ready to betray him. Given the rotten and corrupt nature of the regime and its leading elite, this was not so difficult after all. More than one of the men who were previously unconditional supporters of Saddam while he held absolute power will now be offering their services to Messrs Bremer and Bush. These people have no principles but power and an acute nose for career openings. If the Americans mean what they say, Saddam will be put on trial for war crimes in Iraq. They are preparing a show trial on a Nuremberg scale. The intended purpose is to shock and awe world opinion and the people of Iraq into acquiescing in America’s criminal occupation of Iraq. Will they succeed? Their aim will be to discredit Saddam and therefore provide some excuse for their rape of Iraq. It is clear that he offered no resistance, although he was armed. He may have been taken by surprise and had no time to react, or he may have been so demoralised that he had simply lost the will to fight. There was a kind of relief in his face. It is the relief of a criminal who is finally caught by the police. But Saddam is a very unpredictable man and he can still do the Americans a lot of damage, even when in chains. There are a number of problems in the way of a big show trial, mainly the fact that the prisoner will presumably be allowed to speak. The Americans were obviously assuming that, once in their power, Saddam would simply break down and say whatever they dictated to him. "Talkative and co-operative," the Americans called him after his capture. But the next day they changed their tune and said he was not co-operating. The effect of a public trial in Iraq – if it is ever held – can turn out to be an unpleasant surprise for the Americans. For it could mean that the role of the imperialists can be exposed before the whole world. Saddam Hussein could use such a trial to "spill the beans" on all his past dealings with the imperialists. It depends on Saddam Hussein, but if he decides to go down this road a public trial could backfire on the imperialists. Blair and Straw have quickly added that they wish the trial to be held in Iraq "by the Iraqis". All this is completely hollow because if a trial is held in Iraq it won’t be the Iraqi people who decide. They have no power to elect their own government. They have no say over what happens to the economy, so how can we believe that they will have the last word over the fate of Saddam Hussein. The US occupiers have a stranglehold over the police force, the justice system, etc. The Iraqi judges will simply obey the demands of the US imperialists. What is involved here is not justice but vengeance of a most primitive kind. They want a trial in Iraq, and with this they try to fool world opinion. If the trial were held in some "international court" the US would have less say over the final outcome. If it is held inside Iraq they will be able to control the outcome. Further to that, in Iraq the death sentence can be applied, something which would be more difficult to justify outside Iraq. Thus it is a question of revenge. They want him executed but they don’t want the odium to fall on themselves. They want to wash their hands of this decision, like Pontius Pilate who left it to the "masses" to decide. The hypocrisy of these people is revealed in the statement of the British Foreign Secretary Straw. He says that he is opposed ethically to the death sentence but, however, if the Iraqi courts decide to carry out such a sentence then he would accept it! Thus they would pretend that any such sentence would be the "will" of the "Iraqi people". Thus the whole thing is a farce. Saddam’s interrogators were initially focusing on the former Iraqi president’s ties to the guerrilla war, pressing him for intelligence about impending attacks and the locations of resistance leaders. The interrogators’ immediate hope is that Saddam will supply a wealth of knowledge on the insurgency against the US-led occupation force and its Iraqi allies, officials said. But this line of questioning merely exposes the stupidity of the American intelligence officers, generals and politicians. They try to put the blame on Saddam because they are not prepared to accept that the resistance they are encountering is a popular resistance against a hated foreign invader. The assumption that the capture of Saddam Hussein will solve all the problems is a foolish one. To begin with, this bedraggled, pathetic man, living in a hole in the ground with three guns and a load of dollars was not leading the Iraqi insurgency against the Americans. Throughout this whole affair, US diplomacy and intelligence has been exposed as uniquely incompetent. In the end a US official had to concede that the manner and circumstances of Saddam Hussein’s arrest makes it unlikely he was directing resistance forces in Iraq. The US army found no communications equipment, maps or other evidence of a guerrilla command centre at Saddam’s hiding place. "Given the location and circumstances of his capture, it makes it clear that Saddam was not managing the insurgency, and that he had very little control or influence. That is significant and disturbing because it means the insurgents are not fighting for Saddam, they’re fighting against the United States," said Senator Jay Rockefeller, the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. US intelligence officials have previously said they believe Saddam was too concerned with survival and staying hidden to provide much more than symbolic leadership. Far from making life easier for the occupying forces, the recent events can make it a lot worse. Before Saddam’s capture, many Iraqis were saying that the one reason they would not join the resistance to US occupation was the fear that if the Americans withdrew Saddam would return to power. Now that fear has been taken away, the armed resistance will almost certainly grow, not diminish. The day after the capture saw three new bomb attacks against coalition forces. There is no reason to suppose this will cease. Despite the capture of Saddam Hussein, the guerrilla war in Iraq will continue, with new bombings, killings and assassinations. The occupation forces are powerless to deal with this precisely because there is not one single operational centre, which they can eliminate by killing or capturing its leaders. They are faced with an enemy with as many heads as a hydra. No sooner have they cut off one than another two or three grow in its place. The bitterness of the conflict will produce atrocities and all kinds of horrors that will provide fertile ground for new acts of terrorism both inside and outside Iraq. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> M.Butzin lied: >> That was the time when hatred of Iran was at an all time high and our >> weapons policy toward Iraq was if he can defeat Iran give him what ever >> he wants. > > Tota;l horeshit, Saddam/Iraq was a Soviet client state and was armed with > Russian, Chinese and also, French weaponry. >  1. Iraq was at war with Iran over a little piece of a river bed, nothing > that WW1 era mustard gas couldn’t cure.> > Provided by your commie friends, the Russkies. > 2. RR and his crew gave/sold missles to Iraq to fight  mean and evil Iran > after they held 90 Americans  becasue the USA dicked around with some > obscure Shaw.> > Well, forst, it was the Shah, who was trying to modernize and

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Oh, and to get you tin-foil hats started, here’s an excerpt from the Washingtom Post, July 19, 1992: Roots of the Rebellion In 1980, not long after Soviet forces invaded Afghanistan to prop up a sympathetic leftist government, President Jimmy Carter signed the first —   and for many years the only — presidential "finding" on Afghanistan, the classified directive required by U.S. law to begin covert operations, according to several Western sources familiar with the Carter document. The Carter finding sought to aid Afghan rebels in "harassment" of Soviet occupying forces in Afghanistan through secret supplies of light weapons and other assistance. The finding did not talk of driving Soviet forces out of Afghanistan or defeating them militarily, goals few considered possible at the time, these sources said. The cornerstone of the program was that the United States, through the CIA, would provide funds, some weapons and general supervision of support for the mujaheddin rebels, but day-to-day operations and direct contact with the mujaheddin would be left to the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence agency, or ISI. The hands-off U.S. role contrasted with CIA operations in Nicaragua and Angola. Saudi Arabia agreed to match U.S. financial contributions to the mujaheddin and distributed funds directly to ISI. China sold weapons to the CIA and donated a smaller number directly to Pakistan, but the extent of China’s role has been one of the secret war’s most closely guarded secrets. In all, the United States funneled more than $2 billion in guns and money to the mujaheddin during the 1980s, according to U.S. officials. It was the largest covert action program since World War II. In the first years after the Reagan administration inherited the Carter (Hate to bust your bubble about your peace-loving leftist pals. Don’t choke on the truth, nitwit.)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "M.Butzin", the lying leftist moonbat, again attempts to prove facts > without evidence: > The shoulder fired misslies came from Dubya daddy, sperm lips.> > Nice one, genius, I think you mean "missiles". It turns out the first > weapons given to the Mujihaddeen were from…(hold on to your dick, > lefty..oh, I forgot, you do that all the time don’t you?)….JIMMY > CARTER!!!!! YES! That bastion (coward) of non-violence was the first to > give the Mujies stingers, as championed by his NSA, S. Breshinsky. > Shipments of US weapons were delivered to the Afghans in 1979, well over a > year before Reagan took office. > We will now demand that you, along with your moonbat, leftist, > Amerika-hating buddies, specifically list the weapons that > Reagan/Bush/Rummy gave Saddam. You will further explain why they all look > like Russian/Chinese made AKs, T55 & T72 tanks, MIG fighters, etc. Good > luck, & we’ll all enjoy reading the links you provide in order to prove > your (hopeless) case.

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"M.Butzin", the lying leftist moonbat, again attempts to prove facts without evidence: > The shoulder fired misslies came from Dubya daddy, sperm lips.>

Nice one, genius, I think you mean "missiles". It turns out the first weapons given to the Mujihaddeen were from…(hold on to your dick, lefty..oh, I forgot, you do that all the time don’t you?)….JIMMY CARTER!!!!! YES! That bastion (coward) of non-violence was the first to give the Mujies stingers, as championed by his NSA, S. Breshinsky. Shipments of US weapons were delivered to the Afghans in 1979, well over a year before Reagan took office. We will now demand that you, along with your moonbat, leftist, Amerika-hating buddies, specifically list the weapons that Reagan/Bush/Rummy gave Saddam. You will further explain why they all look like Russian/Chinese made AKs, T55 & T72 tanks, MIG fighters, etc. Good luck, & we’ll all enjoy reading the links you provide in order to prove your (hopeless) case.

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Oh! Here’s a sentence from the White Trash Daily July 19, 2005 Early this morning Sgt. Rufus McCoy informed us that SoK66 was taken into custody for molesting the remains of a woman buried last year. His family could not be reached for comment but offered frustration with stringed instruments as the root of his mental illness. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Oh, here’s an excerpt from the Washingtom Post, July 19, 1992:

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*Snipped all your previous babble.* Hey where ya been man, jail? Don’t worry I’m on your side I don’t think you did anything wrong with those kids:) However you shouldn’t take drugs like that again, your headed down the wrong road your mind will fry again and you’ll have to go back into rehab for a longer stay this time. Wife beating is a totally another issue however, you have been going to anger management classes like the judge ordered you to, right? Any way peace man, just remember your not allowed any kind of firearms and you must stay at least 500 yards away from schools. Have a good day and peace out…..

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OKEY DOKEY _ Starting with the money trail at BNL? I already posted links to Iraqgate. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > "M.Butzin", the lying leftist moonbat, again attempts to prove facts without > evidence: > The shoulder fired misslies came from Dubya daddy, sperm lips.> > Nice one, genius, I think you mean "missiles". It turns out the first > weapons given to the Mujihaddeen were from…(hold on to your dick, > lefty..oh, I forgot, you do that all the time don’t you?)….JIMMY > CARTER!!!!! YES! That bastion (coward) of non-violence was the first to give > the Mujies stingers, as championed by his NSA, S. Breshinsky. Shipments of > US weapons were delivered to the Afghans in 1979, well over a year before > Reagan took office. > We will now demand that you, along with your moonbat, leftist, > Amerika-hating buddies, specifically list the weapons that Reagan/Bush/Rummy > gave Saddam. You will further explain why they all look like Russian/Chinese > made AKs, T55 & T72 tanks, MIG fighters, etc. Good luck, & we’ll all enjoy > reading the links you provide in order to prove your (hopeless) case.

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Bye Bye ….

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> *Snipped all your previous babble.* > Hey where ya been man, jail? Don’t worry I’m on your side I don’t think > you did anything wrong with those kids:) However you shouldn’t take drugs > like that again, your headed down the wrong road your mind will fry again > and you’ll have to go back into rehab for a longer stay this time. Wife > beating is a totally another issue however, you have been going to anger > management classes like the judge ordered you to, right? Any way peace > man, just remember your not allowed any kind of firearms and you must stay > at least 500 yards away from schools. Have a good day and peace out…..

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"Snipped all your previous babble." then signed off w/ a  "Bye Bye …." Turns out he was just another snipping queen. Nice post Butzin. SoK66 usually took a mandolin comment to implode w/ a lisping screech  ;-) mvm

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> "Snipped all your previous babble." then signed off w/ a  "Bye Bye …." > Turns out he was just another snipping queen. > Nice post Butzin. SoK66 usually took a mandolin comment to implode w/ a > lisping screech  ;-) mvm

I saw the booking for his gay love boat cruise, I guess he won’t be lurking there.

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Ack ack ack- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"Snipped all your previous babble." then signed off w/ a  "Bye Bye …." >Turns out he was just another snipping queen. >Nice post Butzin. SoK66 usually took a mandolin comment to implode w/ a >lisping screech  ;-) mvm > I saw the booking for his gay love boat cruise, I guess he won’t be lurking > there.

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message > "Support Troops Outta Iraq" > "Snipped all your previous babble." then

signed off w/ a  "Bye Bye …." > Turns out he was just another snipping queen. > Nice post Butzin. SoK66 usually took a

mandolin comment to implode w/ a > lisping screech  ;-) mvm > I saw the booking for his gay love boat cruise,

I guess he won’t be lurking > there.

Politicians, diapers and Suk666 – need to be changed for the same reason except in Suk666’s case,  lobotomy required additionally for feces removal and disposal.

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This episode of Lifestyles of the Brain Dead & Flatulent is brought to you by the Mandolin Therapy Foundation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Politicians, diapers and Suk666 – > need to be changed for the same reason except > in Suk666’s case,  lobotomy required additionally > for feces removal and disposal.

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